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Momwe Blinken amawonera Putin ndi Soviet Union yatsopano

Maulendo aku US ayamikira a Antony Blinken ngati Secretary of State

Lero poyankhulana ndi US State Department Mlembi Antony J. Blinken Ndi Andrea Mitchell wa NBC Nkhani yokambirana inali Purezidenti Vladimir Putin waku Russia ndi mapulani ake ankhondo omwe akubwera ndi masomphenya a Ukraine.

FUNSO:  Bambo Secretary, zikomo kwambiri chifukwa chokhala nafe. Ndinkafuna kukufunsani zomwe zikuchitika panopa. Wapampando wa Joint Chiefs adauza Congress kuti izi zitha zaka, nkhondoyi. Nkhondo yanthawi yayitali ipitilira zaka, malinga ndi wapampando wa Joint Chiefs. Kodi kudzipereka kwatsopano kwamakono kwa Javelins, zida zolimbana ndi akasinja ku Ukraine zidzafupikitsa nthawiyi?

MLEMBI BLINKEN:  Andrea, tikufuna kuwona izi zikufika kumapeto mwachangu momwe tingathere, ndiye chifukwa chake tikuwonetsetsa kuti tikuchita zonse zomwe tingathe kuti tithandizire ku Ukraine ndikuwapatsa thandizo lomwe angafunikire kuti akakamize komanso kuwathandiza. onjezerani kukakamiza ku Russia, ngakhale tikulimbikitsa - chitetezo cha Mgwirizano wathu wa NATO.

FUNSO:  Nanga bwanji ma Javelins?

MLEMBI BLINKEN:  Chifukwa chake ma Javelins, tangochita kumene - Purezidenti adavomerezanso $ 100 miliyoni pakutsitsa komwe kungapereke ma Javelins ochulukirapo kwa anzathu aku Ukraine. Ikani izi moyenera: Pakati pa United States ndi ogwirizana ndi ena ndi othandizana nawo, pa tanki iliyonse ya ku Russia ku Ukraine, tapereka kapena posachedwapa tipereka machitidwe a 10 odana ndi akasinja - 10 pa tanki iliyonse ya Russia. Kotero ponena za zomwe akuyenera kuchitapo kanthu mwamsanga ndi kuchitapo kanthu moyenera, kuthana ndi ndege zomwe zikuwawombera kuchokera kumwamba, akasinja omwe akuyesera kuwononga mizinda yawo pansi, ali ndi zida zomwe akufunikira, iwo. 'tizipezabe, ndipo tipitiliza kuzisamalira.

Koma ku mfundo ya tcheyamani, ndipo Pulezidenti adanenanso izi, monga momwe tikufunira kuti izi zifike kumapeto mwamsanga kuti tiyimitse imfa ndi chiwonongeko chomwe chikuchitika ndi Russia ku Ukraine, palinso mwayi wochuluka. zochitika zomwe izi zimachitika kwakanthawi. Anthu a ku Russia, ngakhale akusuntha mphamvu zawo, achoka ku Kyiv, achoka kumpoto ndi kumadzulo, akugwirizanitsa mphamvu kummawa, ku Donbas. Ali ndi mphamvu zambiri zomwe zatsala. Anthu aku Ukraine ali ndi china chake chomwe chili champhamvu kwambiri, ndipo ndikotsimikiza mtima komanso kufuna kuteteza dziko lawo mothandizidwa ndi mayiko ambiri padziko lonse lapansi.

FUNSO:  Kodi angapambane?

MLEMBI BLINKEN:  Ndiye pamapeto pake, inde, chifukwa kupambana ndi chiyani, kupambana ndi chiyani? Ikugwiritsitsa ku ulamuliro ndi kudziyimira pawokha kwa dziko lake. Ndipo palibe zochitika zomwe sizidzachitika pakapita nthawi. Vuto likhoza kutenga nthawi, ndipo pakadali pano, imfa ndi chiwonongeko chachikulu. Koma chomwe chili champhamvu kwambiri apa ndikuti anthu aku Ukraine adawonetsa momveka bwino kuti sangagonjetse zofuna za Vladimir Putin.

FUNSO:  Koma ziribe kanthu momwe tingawapatse, Ukraine ingakhale bwanji motsutsana ndi Russia kwa nthawi yaitali pokhapokha US ndi mayiko ena akutsimikizira malire ake, chitetezo chake, monga Purezidenti Zelenskyy akufuna?

MLEMBI BLINKEN:  Chabwino, zinthu zoyamba poyamba. Chinthu choyamba ndikuwona kuti nkhanza za Russia zikufika kumapeto, kuti pali kutha kwa nkhondo, kuti Russia ichotse mphamvu zake, ndi kuti Ukraine imatsimikizira kuti ndi yodzilamulira komanso yodziimira. Koma ndiye, inde, tiyenera kuchita zinthu kuti tiwonetsetse kuti, momwe tingathere komanso luso la Ukraine, izi sizingachitike kachiwiri, kuti Russia ikulepheretsedwa, kuti Ukraine imatetezedwa. Timakhala ndi zokambirana pafupipafupi -

FUNSO:  Kodi tidzatsimikizira zimenezo?

MLEMBI BLINKEN:  Kotero ife tiri ndi -

FUNSO:  Kodi US itenga nawo mbali zambiri?

MLEMBI BLINKEN:  Tikukambirana pafupipafupi ndi anzathu aku Ukraine tsiku lililonse, kuphatikiza zomwe ife ndi ena tingachite ngati tikambirana bwino kuti tiwateteze ndikuwathandiza kudziteteza kupita patsogolo. Zonsezi ndi nkhani ya zokambirana pakali pano. Sindikupita patsogolo, koma tichita zonse zomwe tingathe, ena adzachita zomwe angathe kuti atsimikizire kuti Ukraine ikhoza kudziteteza ndikuletsa chiwawa chobwerezedwa ndi Russia.

FUNSO:  Purezidenti Putin wanena kuti akufuna kukonzanso Soviet Union, ulemerero wa Soviet Union. Ndi zikhumbozo, kodi Ukraine ingakhale bwanji yotetezeka malinga ngati Putin ali ndi mphamvu?

MLEMBI BLINKEN:  Chabwino, zinthu ziwiri: Choyamba, malingana ndi zomwe Russia adafuna kuchita, zomwe Putin adafuna kuchita ku Ukraine, izi zakhala zolepheretsa kale, ngati sizinalephereke. Chifukwa kumbukirani, Andrea, cholinga chomwe Putin adakhazikitsa m'mawu akeake chinali kuchotsa ulamuliro ndi ufulu wa Ukraine. Amawona ngati dziko lomwe siliyenera kudziyimira pawokha, lomwe liyenera kubwezeretsedwanso ku Russia yayikulu. Izi sizikuchitika, osati kungochoka ku Kyiv koma kuti ngakhale mumasewera bwanji, anthu aku Ukraine sadzigonjera ku ulamuliro wankhanza waku Russia.

FUNSO:  Iye ndi wotchuka kwambiri kuposa kale kunyumba.

MLEMBI BLINKEN:  Kotero iye angakhale tsopano wotchuka kwambiri. Zoonadi, ngati mumadyetsedwa chakudya chokhazikika, m'mawa, masana, ndi usiku wa zokopa, zomwe mwatsoka anthu aku Russia ali, zomwe zimalankhula za kutchuka komwe ali nako. Panthaŵi imodzimodziyo, pamene anthu akulabadira voti, angakhale amawopa kwambiri kupereka mayankho owona. Panopa pali chilango cha zaka 15 kwa aliyense amene angatsutse m'njira iliyonse yomwe amati ndi yapadera yankhondo. Kotero inu muyenera kutenga izo ndi njere yamchere.

Nditanena izi, ndikuganiza kuti pali vuto lenileni, lomwe anthu aku Russia sapeza zenizeni zomwe amafunikira kuti adziweruze okha, ndipo ndichifukwa cha dongosolo lomwe Vladimir Putin adapanga kuti chidziwitsocho chikutsutsidwa. iwo.

FUNSO:  Purezidenti Biden watcha a Putin kuti ndi wopha nyama, chigawenga chankhondo. Mwanena kuti anthu amene anapalamula milandu ku Bucha ndi amene anawalamula adzawayankha.

MLEMBI BLINKEN:  Ndichoncho.

FUNSO:  Zingachitike bwanji popanda Vladimir Putin kuyimilira mlandu?

MLEMBI BLINKEN:  Choyamba, Andrea, mawilo oyankha amatha kusuntha pang'onopang'ono, koma amasuntha, ndipo tsiku lina, kwinakwake, kwinakwake, omwe adachita zolakwa izi ndi omwe adalamula kuti achite zolakwazo adzayankha. Koma zimatenga nthawi, ndipo zina mwa izi ndikumanga mlandu, zina mwa izi ndi - zomwe tikuchita ndi ena akuchita. Gawo - pali wozenga mlandu wapadera waku Ukraine yemwe akugwira izi. Tikuthandizira zoyesayesa zake. Tinakhazikitsa ku United Nations ku Bungwe la Human Rights Council Commission of Inquiry yomwe ikuyang'ananso izi. Tikuthandizira zoyesayesa zimenezo, kumanga mlandu, kupeza umboni, kulemba. Bungwe la International Criminal Court likuwonanso izi.

Koma zonsezi zidzatha pakapita nthawi, ndipo tiyenera kumanga mlandu, tiyenera kupeza umboni, tiyenera kulemba - tikuchita zonsezi. Ndiye mwezi wamawa, chaka chamawa, zaka zisanu? Zitha kutenga nthawi, koma ndikuganiza - ndikukutsimikizirani kuti pakhala kuyesetsa kosalekeza kuwonetsetsa kuti omwe ali ndi udindo pazomwe tikuwona adzayankha. Ndipo zomwe tikuwona, Andrea, ndikuganiza kuposa zomwe aliyense wa ife angayembekezere. Tinanena kuti dziko la Russia lisanachite zachiwawazi kuti padzakhala nkhanza, kuti inali gawo ladala la kampeni yawo. Ndipo ngakhale podziwa kuti, pamene mafunde a Russia awa adatsika kuchokera ku Bucha ndipo tidawona imfa ndi chiwonongeko chomwe chinasiyidwa pambuyo pake, ndipo tinawona momwe izo zinkawonekera, kuphatikizapo anthu omwe anaphedwa - ndipo kwenikweni, manja awo atamangidwa - kuphedwa, manja omangidwa kumbuyo - nkhanza zomwe zimachitidwa kwa amayi, kwa ana, ndizowopsa. Ndipo payenera kukhala kuyankha pa izo.

FUNSO:  Kodi munawona vidiyo yomwe Purezidenti Zelenskyy anapereka ku United Nations, kapena zithunzi zina zochokera ku Bucha? Monga mukufotokozera, nkhanza, muli ndi ana ang'onoang'ono. Kodi mumawauza chiyani ana anu? Kodi mungawauze chiyani?

MLEMBI BLINKEN:  Chabwino, mwamwayi, iwo ndi ang'onoang'ono kwambiri kuti asawone izo, kuti athe kuzigaya ndi kuzimvetsa izo.

FUNSO:  Koma tsiku lina, iwo—adzatero—

MLEMBI BLINKEN:  Koma tsiku lina adzatero. Ndipo ndikuuzeni, Andrea, ndikuganiza - ndipo ndikukayikira kuti ambiri aife timachita chimodzimodzi, makamaka omwe ali ndi ana kapena ana ang'onoang'ono - mumadziyika nokha mu nsapato za abambo, amayi, agogo, agogo amene ali pakati pa izi, amene akuvutika izi, amene miyoyo ya ana awo ali pachiswe kapena pangozi, kapena amene atayika. Ndipo zimakukhudzani - ndinanena tsiku lina, kuona zithunzi izi kuchokera ku Bucha zinali ngati nkhonya m'matumbo. Zimatengera mphepo mwa inu. Mutha kudziwa china chake mwanzeru, koma mukawona zithunzizi ndikumasulira m'moyo wanu, mukazifunsa kuti, "Bwanji ngati izi zikuchitika mtawuni yanga, kwa ana anga? Ku banja langa?" Ndikuganiza kuti zimangowonjezera kutsimikiza mtima kwathu kuchita zonse zomwe tingathe kuti tithandizire anthu a ku Ukraine, kukakamiza Russia, kuti athetse izi mwamsanga.

FUNSO:  Kazembe wanu wa UN, Linda Thomas-Greenfield, anafotokoza za nkhanzazi ndipo anazifanizitsa ndi kuphedwa kwa Nazi. Analankhula za zomwe bungwe la Mariupol lidafotokoza, anthu mokakamiza - masauzande makumi ambiri - adatengedwa m'nyumba zawo, kupita ku Russia ndikuyika m'misasa. Kodi kumeneko sindiko tanthauzo lenileni la kuphedwa kwa mafuko?

MLEMBI BLINKEN:  Chabwino, tiyenera kupeza zidziwitso zonse, umboni wonse. Tiyenera, monga ndanenera, kulemba zonse zomwe zachitika, kumvetsetsa bwino zomwe zidachitika. Ndi nthabwala zosangalatsa mwanjira ina. Iyi ndi njira ina nkhondo yolembedwa kwambiri munthawi yeniyeni yomwe takhala nayo chifukwa chaukadaulo, chifukwa cha mafoni anzeru, chifukwa cha kulimba mtima kodabwitsa kwa atolankhani omwe adatsalira ku Ukraine. Koma ngakhale zili choncho, zinthu zomwe sitikuziwona mu nthawi yeniyeni, kuphatikiza Bucha - ndipo ndipamene mafunde atsika m'pamene mumawona zomwe zidachitika.

Chifukwa chake ndikuganiza kuti tiphunzira zambiri m'masiku ndi masabata amtsogolo. Ndikuchita mantha kuti zomwe tikuphunzirazo ndi zowopsya kwambiri.

FUNSO:  Kodi tikudziwa chilichonse chokhudza zomwe zikuchitika m'misasa yaku Russia ndi anthu aku Ukraine, ndipo tili ndi chiyembekezo choti tidzawabweza?

MLEMBI BLINKEN:  Tilibe chidziwitso chabwino pa izi, koma ndithudi tikuchita zonse zomwe tingathe. Mayiko ena akuchita zonse zomwe angathe kuti aliyense amene akumangidwa atulutsidwe.

FUNSO:  US yalonjeza kuti itenga 100,000 mwa mamiliyoni othawa kwawo. Europe yatsegula zitseko zawo, kuwayika mnyumba zawo.

MLEMBI BLINKEN:  Ali ndi.

FUNSO:  NBC yanena za azimayi osachepera awiri, azimayi awiri aku Ukraine kumalire akumwera, omwe adatengedwa ndikutsekeredwa kwa milungu iwiri kuseri kwa waya waminga ndipo nthawi zina amamangidwa mumsasa wa ICE. Kodi tingachite bwanji zimenezi poyerekeza ndi mmene Ulaya akuwalandirira?

MLEMBI BLINKEN:  Chabwino, sindikudziwa za malipoti amenewo. Ndi chinachake chimene ine ndithudi ndiyang'anamo. Koma apa pali zomwe zikuchitika. Choyamba, Azungu akhala odabwitsa mu kuwolowa manja kwawo, kutsegula mitima yawo, kutsegula manja awo, kutsegula nyumba zawo kwa anthu ambiri. Anzathu ku Poland, poyambirira, adakhala ndi anthu opitilira 2 miliyoni kudzera ku Poland. Ambiri mwa othawa kwawo - ambiri a iwo, kwenikweni - amafuna kukhala pafupi ndi kwawo chifukwa zomwe mukuwona, Andrea - ndipo ndikudziwa kuti mwadziwonera nokha - pafupifupi aliyense ndi mkazi ndi ana. Amuna ambiri azaka zapakati pa 18 ndi 60 atsalira ku Ukraine kuti amenyane. Amakonda kukhala pafupi pafupi. Iwo akufuna kubwerera, akufuna kuyanjananso ndi amuna awo, ndi abale awo, ndi ana awo aamuna. Ndipo akakhala ku Ulaya, amakhalanso ndi ufulu wambiri woyenda komanso amatha kuyanjananso ndi achibale ena kumeneko.

Atanena izi, Purezidenti Biden adanenanso momveka bwino kuti tilandila anthu 100,000 aku Ukraine. Ndife ‑-

FUNSO:  Kodi pali nthawi?

MLEMBI BLINKEN:  Kotero zadutsa nthawi. Zomwe tikuchita pakali pano ndikuyang'ana njira zovomerezeka zomwe tingathe kuchita zimenezo chifukwa pali pulogalamu yachibadwa ya anthu othawa kwawo, koma kuti, mwa kutanthauzira, zimatenga nthawi yaitali. Zimatenga zaka zingapo -

FUNSO:  Funso lofulumira tisanataye nthawi: zilango.

MLEMBI BLINKEN:  Eya.

FUNSO:  Zilango zatsopano, tsopano Europe ikuyika zilango zatsopano. China ndi India amapitiliza kugula mafuta ku Russia ndikuwonjezera nkhondoyi, kuthandiza kuthandizira ndalama zankhondo ya Putin. Chifukwa chiyani sitikuvomereza China ndi India?

MLEMBI BLINKEN:  Chifukwa chake koyamba, Andrea, zilango izi zikukhudza kwambiri.

FUNSO:  Koma pali ming'alu yayikulu, ndipo Europe ikugulabe gasi wachilengedwe ndipo ikatero kwa chaka china.

MLEMBI BLINKEN:  Pali zotupa zomwe, chidutswa ndi chidutswa, chimodzi ndi chimodzi, tikuyesera kutseka. Nthawi zina zimenezi zimatenga nthawi. Koma tiyeni tione zimene zinachitika kale. Zilangozo mochulukirachulukira zayika chuma cha Russia pamavuto akulu. Ndipo zomwe tikuwona ndikuchepa kwachuma cha Russia pafupifupi 15 peresenti. Zimenezi n’zochititsa chidwi. Ife tawona chinachake. Tawona kuchoka ku Russia kwa pafupifupi makampani onse akuluakulu padziko lapansi. Ndipo a Putin, pakatha milungu ingapo, watseka Russia kudziko lapansi. Kutsegulira konse, mwayi wonse womwe udachitika zaka 30 zapitazi wapita. Ndipo aku Russia adzamva kuti, ndikuwopa, m'moyo wawo watsiku ndi tsiku. Sadzatha kugula zinthu zomwe anazolowera kugula, ndipo sangakwanitse kugula zomwe akufuna kugula.

Kupitilira apo, zowongolera zotumizira kunja zomwe timayika, kukana Russia ukadaulo womwe ukufunika kuti upititse patsogolo mafakitale ofunikira monga chitetezo, monga kutulutsa mphamvu - pakapita nthawi, izi zitha kukhala ndi vuto lalikulu.

Kotero ife tikuwona kale kukhudza kwakukulu kwa izi. Ndipo inde, pali malo omwe mayiko osiyanasiyana akuchita zinthu zosiyanasiyana. Tikugwira ntchito tsiku lililonse kuti titseke.

FUNSO:  Funso lofulumira ku Iran ndisanakusiyeni. Mukukamba za Iran kuno ku Brussels. Kodi gulu lankhondo la Iran Revolutionary Guard - lomwe laukira anthu aku America ndi ogwirizana nawo - ndi gulu lachigawenga?

MLEMBI BLINKEN:  Kotero, iwo ali. Ndipo -

FUNSO:  Kodi adzapitiriza kukhala?

MLEMBI BLINKEN:  Ine sindidzalowa mu tsatanetsatane wa komwe ife tiri pa zokambirana. Ndinganene mophweka kuti sindiri woyembekezera mopambanitsa pa chiyembekezo chopeza mgwirizano womaliza, ngakhale titayesetsa kuchitapo kanthu komanso ngakhale ndikukhulupirira kuti tidzakhala - chitetezo chathu chingakhale bwino. Ife kulibe. Tiyenera kuwona ngati titha kutseka -

FUNSO:  Kodi nthawi yatha?

MLEMBI BLINKEN:  Ndipo nthawi ikufupika kwambiri. Koma izi ndi zomwe tikambirana ndi anzathu aku Europe masana ano kenako mawa lake. Takhala tikugwira ntchito mogwirizana kwambiri ndi azungu, ndi European Union, ndi France, ndi Germany, ndi UK.

Ndiye tiwona komwe tifika. Ndikupitiriza kukhulupirira kuti zingakhale zothandiza dziko lathu ngati tingathe kubwereranso kutsata mgwirizanowu, ngati Iran idzachitanso chimodzimodzi. Ife kulibe.

FUNSO:  Zikomo kwambiri, Bambo Mlembi. Zikomo chifukwa cha kudekha kwanu.

MLEMBI BLINKEN:  Zikomo, Andrea.

FUNSO:  Ndasangalala kukuwonani.

MLEMBI BLINKEN:  Inunso. Zikomo.

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Wachinyamata T Steinmetz

Juergen Thomas Steinmetz wakhala akugwirabe ntchito zapaulendo komanso zokopa alendo kuyambira ali wachinyamata ku Germany (1977).
Iye adayambitsa eTurboNews mu 1999 ngati nkhani yoyamba yapaintaneti yantchito zapaulendo padziko lonse lapansi.

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