Kulumikizana nane tsopano kuchokera ku Sharm el-Sheikh, Egypt, ndi Woyang'anira USAID, Kazembe wakale wa UN, Samantha Power - ndi Purezidenti pa Global Climate Summit [2022 United Nations Climate Change Conference, aka. COP27]. Zikomo kwambiri Ambassador Power pokhala nafe. Purezidenti Biden akubwera ku Msonkhano wa Zanyengo pambuyo poti US ndi mayiko ena otukuka adadzudzulidwa ndi dziko lonse lapansi chifukwa choyambitsa. kusintha kwa nyengo. Purezidenti akufotokoza zomwe US ikuchita. Kodi mukuda nkhawa kuti ngati aku Republican atenga ulamuliro ku Congress, ichi chingakhale gawo lomaliza la kusintha kwanyengo kwa oyang'anira awa?
ADMINISTRATOR SAMANTHA MPHAMVU: Chabwino, choyamba ndiloleni ndinene, Andrea, kuti Purezidenti atabwera ku COP chaka chatha - ku Msonkhano wa Zanyengo chaka chatha - adatha kuyankhula za kubweranso kwa America, kubwereranso ku Pangano la Paris, kubwereranso kuyesayesa koletsa kwambiri. kutulutsa mpweya pamene panali kubwezeredwa kochuluka kwa malamulo omwe adakhazikitsidwa muzaka za Obama. Chaka chino, akubwera atapeza ndalama zokwana madola 368 biliyoni polimbana ndi kusintha kwa nyengo. Ndipo inu mukhoza basi - sikukalamba, pano pa msonkhano wa nyengo - mukhoza kumva pafupifupi kupuma, kachiwiri, pamene anthu akulimbana ndi zomwe zikutanthauza. Chifukwa ndizofunika, osati ponena za United States yochepetsera mpweya ndi kukwaniritsa zolinga zake za Paris zomwe zakhazikitsidwa, zomwe tikudziwa, pakapita nthawi, tifunika kukhala ofunitsitsa komanso kuti tifulumire. Koma pochita - popanga ndalama zochulukirapo kunyumba - zitsitsa mitengo kulikonse. Ndipo izi zikutanthauza kuti dzuwa, mphepo yamkuntho, mwayi wopeza zowonjezera pamtengo wotsika mtengo, m'malo omwe akuthandizira kwambiri kutulutsa mpweya.
Ndiyeno, kumbali yosinthira, mwachiwonekere, kusintha kwa nyengo kuli pa ife. Ndinayenda posachedwapa - m'miyezi ingapo yapitayi - ku Somalia, yomwe imadziwika kuti ndi nyengo yachisanu motsatizana ya mvula yomwe sikunachitikepo, zomwe sizinachitikepo m'mbiri yonse yolembedwa, ndipo Pakistan, gawo limodzi mwamagawo atatu lomwe lidakhala pansi pamadzi chifukwa cha kusefukira kwamadzi komwe sikunachitikepo, kusungunuka. madzi oundana pamodzi ndi, kachiwiri, mvula yamkuntho yomwe imakonda yomwe palibe amene adayiwonapo.
Chifukwa chake, gawo limodzi la zomwe Purezidenti Biden adachita chaka chino, ndikuwonjezera ndalama zathu zomwe zimatchedwa kusintha, kuthandiza maiko kuti agwirizane ndi zovuta zanyengo zomwe zilipo kale, ngakhale tikufulumizitsa kuyesetsa kwathu kuti tichepetse mpweya.
ANDREA MITCHELL wa MSNBC ANALIMBIKITSA: Inu mwakhaladi msilikali wamsewu wa kayendetsedwe kameneka. Ndakhala ndikutsata maulendo anu - Ukraine, mobwerezabwereza, mwangobwera kumene kuchokera ku Lebanon, kuyang'ana kwambiri za chakudya komanso nkhani ya Putin akuti akuthandizira mgwirizano wa tirigu, kutumiza njere ku Black Sea, kupyolera mutsekeka. Pali zambiri zomwe zili pachiwopsezo koma nkhondo ya ku Ukraine yawonjezera kukakamiza ku Western Europe kuti ipitilize kudalira mafuta oyambira - pali kutsutsa kwakukulu kuti US ikuyenera kudalira mafuta oyambira nthawi yayitali kuposa momwe angafune. chifukwa cha nkhondo. Mukuwona bwanji izi zonse zikuchitika?
MPHAMVU YOYAMBA: Ndikuganiza, m'kanthawi kochepa, mwachiwonekere mayiko akulimbana ndi kusowa kwamphamvu kwamphamvu.
Mayiko akuda nkhawa ndi momwe angadutse m'nyengo yozizira, akuda nkhawa ndi mitengo yokwera kwambiri yamafuta, komanso mitengo yomwe amalipiritsa ndi Putin, osati ndi Putin yekha, popeza kuperekera kumachepa dala pamsika wapadziko lonse lapansi, motero kumayendetsa galimoto. kukwera mitengo.
Koma zomwe ndidaziwona, ndingolankhula ndi Lebanon - osati dziko lomwe timaliganizira motere, koma chifukwa mitengo yamafuta ndi yokwera kwambiri ndipo magetsi ndi osowa kwambiri komanso amagawika m'dziko lomwe silinachitikepo ngati izi zisanachitike. zovuta pamenepo. Tsopano tikuwona chilakolako cha dzuwa chomwe chinali chisanakhalepo. Ndipo chifukwa chakuti dzuwa likupangidwa m'malo ambiri, mitengo ikutsika - kotero mudzawona anthu ambiri, komanso mabungwe apadera, komanso maboma, m'njira yovotera ndi mapazi awo. Ndipo mtengo wapamwamba uwu, m'kanthawi kochepa, mafuta, ndipo monga mukunenera, ngakhale kudalira kwakanthawi kochepa kapena kubwerera ku carbon, m'njira yowononga, mosakayika, kwa chilengedwe. Koma palibe amene amamasuka ndi kudalira kumeneko. Zowonadi, ndikuganiza kuti zangokulitsa ndikukulitsa chigawocho kuti chisachoke pa kudalira munthu ngati Putin.
MS. MITCHELL: Munali posachedwa ku Ukraine, komwenso asilikali a ku Ukraine lero malinga ndi Purezidenti Zelenskyy alowa ku Kherson, malo ovuta kwambiri - asilikali a ku Russia achoka kumalo otetezedwa. Putin waganiza kuti asawonekere ngakhale ku G20 komwe angakumane ndi atsogoleri adziko lapansi, komwe ali yekhayekha padziko lonse lapansi, m'mabungwe amitundu yambiri - mochulukirachulukira. Iye ali ndi veto mu UN Security Council, mukudziwa bwino izi kuposa aliyense monga kazembe wakale. Koma watayikadi mu General Assembly ndi UN, momveka bwino, sichoncho?
MPHAMVU YOYAMBA: Mwamtheradi. Ndipo ndikuganiza kuti zida zankhondo zathandiza kwambiri komanso kuti, ndithudi, dziko lililonse la membala wa United Nations likufuna kukweza mawu awo motsutsana ndi ziwawa zosatsutsika ndi nkhanza zamtunduwu. Chifukwa dziko lililonse la United Nations limaganiza kuti, "Bwanji ngati wina atandichitira izi, angamve bwanji?"
Iwo ali ndi chidwi ndi malamulo apadziko lonse lapansi ndi kukhulupirika kwa madera akusungidwa. Amakhalanso ndi chidwi chotsitsa mitengo yazakudya ndipo pafupifupi chilichonse chomwe Putin wachita chakweza mitengo yazakudya, mitengo yamafuta, komanso mitengo ya feteleza. Chifukwa chake, sikumupatsa abwenzi aliwonse padziko lonse lapansi. Komanso, zomwe ankhondo ake akukumana nazo pabwalo lankhondo - uwu siwo mtundu wankhondo womwe Putin angafune kubweretsa kumsonkhano wapadziko lonse lapansi. Mfundo yakuti asilikali a ku Russia ataya nkhondo ya Kyiv, nkhondo ya Kharkiv, yomwe tsopano ndi nkhondo ya Kherson - izi sizikutanthauza kuti anthu a ku Russia amanyadira kuti adzitamandira kuti ndi amene adzabwezeretsedwe. ndi Russian Federation. Choncho iyi yakhala nthawi yovuta. Koma ndinena, Andrea, zomwe tikudziwa kuchokera kumadera onse omwe adamasulidwa ku Ukraine ndikuti pali zochitika zosangalatsa izi, ndipo zikuyenda modabwitsa. Ndikuganiza kuti munthu akhoza kuthera tsiku lonse akuyang'ana ana ndi agogo aakazi akutuluka ndikupereka moni kwa asilikaliwo akuwona osati mbendera ya Chiyukireniya yomwe ikukwera, koma mbendera ya European Union ikukwera m'tawuni ya Kherson. Panthawi imodzimodziyo, tikudziwa kuti pamene asilikali a ku Russia akuchoka, timaphunzira zambiri za kuipa komwe kwachitika panthawi ya ntchitoyo. Ndipo kotero, ife, ku USAID ndi boma la US, tikugwira ntchito ndi anzathu pansi kuti tilembe za milandu yankhondo yomwe tikudziwa kuti iwululidwa, pamene aku Ukraine akukhazikitsanso kupezeka kwawo kumeneko.
MS. MITCHELL: Pamene mudayamba ntchito yanu, mukulemba mozama kwambiri ku Bosnia za kupha anthu. Kodi mukukhulupirira kuti padzakhala kuyankha pa zoopsa za Ukraine?
MPHAMVU YOYAMBA: Chabwino, zomwe ndinganene ndikuti anthu aku Ukraine achita mitundu yonse ya zinthu zomwe palibe amene adakhulupirira kuti zingatheke. Akatswiri kulikonse, kuphatikizapo omwe ali pafupi kwambiri ndi Putin, omwe ankaganiza kuti adzatha kupambana mofulumira kwambiri. Ndikhozanso kutengera zomwe ndakumana nazo - monga momwe mudatchulira ku Bosnia - kumene palibe amene ankaganiza kuti padzakhala mlandu wa milandu ya nkhondo kumeneko, kapena kuti Slobodan Milošević , Ratko Mladić, anyamatawa amatha kutsekeredwa m'ndende. Moyo ndi wautali, lembani umboni, khazikitsani umboni wazamalamulo, ndikupitiriza - ku United States, kuthandizira chitetezo chaumunthu, zoyesayesa zachuma, ndi zolemba zaupandu wankhondo pansi, ndipo zinthu zikhoza kusintha mofulumira kwambiri.
MS. MITCHELL: Samantha Power tikuyang'ananso zithunzi zamoyo, zithunzi zopambana za kumasulidwa kwa Kherson. Ndipo ndikungofuna kunena kuti zikuyenda bwino, ngakhale kuphulitsidwa kwa kapeti, ngakhale akukumana ndi zoopsa zonse zomwe adakumana nazo - ndipo mwakhala mulingo woterewu kuti mukhale olimba mtima kwa anthu awa ndi anthu padziko lonse lapansi pamene mukuyenda. , padziko lonse, zaka ziwiri zapitazi. Takhala tikuwonera, zikomo kwambiri. Zikomo pazomwe mukuchita.
MPHAMVU YOYAMBA: Zikomo, Andrea. Zikomo.
